Mormon Blues

Another Failed Mormon Prophet

The Missionary Position

Good day everyone!   I’m taking the time to post today because I have retrieved documentation on the Mormon Church that was pulled from the internet by concerned Mormons yesterday.  It’s an extremely important transcript, documenting the experience of Hans Mattsson and other Swedish critics with Mormon historical apologists (who were apparently airlifted to Sweden in an emergency attempt to quell the “foreign rebellion”).

For the record, I don’t have any special bone to pick with Mormons.  As a devout anti-theist and an American citizen (serendipitously born along the Mormon Trail), I take a special interest in their particular brand of lunacy but don’t wish to imply that they are really any different than all the other invented religions before them or contemporary with them.

First Encounter with Hans Mattson

Yesterday I read a story in the New York Times of a high ranking Swedish Mormon apostate, Hans Mattsson.  I have read many tales of Mormon apostasy, not the least of which is that of the 27th wife of Brigham Young, but I had never heard of Mr. Mattsson before yesterday. The Times piece highlighted his many difficulties in trying to get answers to some of the fundamental questions relating to Mormonism.  I could have saved him a lot of time if he had asked me, but as a good Mormon, he tried to follow the church protocol so he wouldn’t end up like every other outcast from Scientology Mormonism.  He followed the chain of command.


As it turns out, the Mormons aren’t exactly forthcoming on the true history of the Mormon church.  Their brainwashed and gullible youth missionaries aren’t really at fault here since they are left equally in the dark over the deep mysteries of L Ron Hubbard Joseph Smith as well as some of the seedier details of the early church.

As a high ranking member of the Swedish Mormon sect, Mr. Mattsson took it upon himself to try and retrieve the answers to questions concerning not only the early history of his church, but also the many obvious problems in the Book of Mormon itself.

For the uninitiated, there are almost too many to count.  My personal favorite is the description in the Book of Mormon of horses, sheep and certain grains that are described as having been present in the Americas during the (purported) time of Christ and which Joseph Smith obviously was not aware were only brought to the New World by Columbus and later European explorers!

I can’t help but wonder how many fervent Mormons are even aware of such inconsistencies.  It’s been my experience that the deeper one delves into any particular religion, the more inoculated against reality they become.  The most blatant religious example I see infecting Americans today is the denial of the reality of human evolution despite irrefutable mountains of evidence in support thereof.  I’d sit quietly on the sidelines and let them abuse their children with whatever poppycock they felt comfortable with if they weren’t trying to infect the rest of society with their creative nonsense.

Major Issues in Mormonism

There are deeper problems in Mormonism than the recently failed Presidential bid of their favored son Mitt Romney.  According to the New York Times:

A survey of more than 3,300 Mormon disbelievers, released last year, found that more than half of the men and four in 10 of the women had served in leadership positions in the church.

When half the apostates of a church are folks from former leadership positions it doesn’t bode well for the future of your Church.  A very similar thing is going on in the Church of Scientology as well, with many high ranking members “coming out” with stories of abuse and deception.  Mormons, like Scientologists, have deep pockets, but there’s probably a limit as to how far hooey and deception can carry them in the long run.  Mormons may soon see their largest temples as empty as the gaudy facilities Scientology presents to the public as the face of their church.  They’ve also got a “disconnection” problem in Mormonism that’s not unlike that of their blood brothers in creative American religious revelation, the Scientologists.

Many said they had suffered broken relationships with their parents, spouses and children as a result of their disbelief.

Mattsson’s Mistrust of Mormonism

Mattsson was born into Mormonism and like many children sufficiently indoctrinated in any belief system, it took him the greater part of his adult life to see through the smokescreen of apologetics placed in his path by Church leaders to dissuade believers into questioning or straying from the faith.  His story is well documented within the New York Times article so I will skip it for the sake of brevity.

My Mistrust of Mormonism

This post would probably not exist except for the good folks over at, where I read the PDF in question yesterday (linked from the NYTimes piece) and commented on it, only to return today to see both the PDF in question, (as well as my comments on the blog) “disappeared” into the void.

As it turns out, is not a neutral observer in these matters.  It is run by a Mormon and as he explains pulling the transcript in his own words:

 Please forgive the inconvenience.  I am walking a difficult line as an active church member, and am trying to do the “right thing” for all parties involved.  This is a difficult balance.

By and large it’s just like any other religious apologetics website, eager to try and control and shape the “debate” to terms that suit their fancy.  I take the issue of this type of religious tomfoolery very seriously these days since religion has decided it’s their mission to invade and debauch our secular governance in lieu of placing their religious dogma ahead of that of our Constitution.

For my part, I am not an active member of any church and am trying to do the “right thing” for the sake of humanity in general.  The link to the full PDF transcript of of the 2010 meeting between the disaffected Swedish saints and Elder Marlin Jensen and Richard Turley, the Mormon “historians” dispatched from Utah to answer the question of the Swedes is below.   I plan to dissect the document more fully in a future blog post as a gift to the blogosphere.

Link to PDF:  Turley_Jensen_Stockholm_2010


Microsoft Tablets

Plop Plop, Fizz Fizz.

Microsoft is launching their first batch of tablet computers.  I have been hearing those words for about six months now but haven’t actually seen one yet.  Back when I gave a squat about what Microsoft was babbling about, they were constantly talking about a Courier tablet.  Looked cool.  Never materialized.  I seem to remember that being several years before the iPad arrived.  Another case of “what if” for Microsoft.

The Courier seemed breathtakingly innovative compared with “keyboard covers in fancy colors” that look good, and are obviously meant to make them stand out from the iPads they are (desperately?) trying to compete with, but since the Apple iPad already has an outstanding Bluetooth keyboard available (full disclosure – I love my Apple Bluetooth keyboard) that feature isn’t as Earth-shattering as it might otherwise appear to those with no knowledge of the Apple iPad accessory market.

The last time Microsoft entered a market segment this late in the game was with the Zune, when they absolutely couldn’t ignore the iPod any longer.  Microsoft was one of the last, and easily the largest of the iPod killers, to end in the graveyard of hopelessly lame electronics.  The Zune is now referred to as the Edsel of electronic devices but just like the Edsel there are some who still sing the technical virtues of the device.

Two Routes Tablets to the Celestial Kingdom. success.

In the spirit of mixing politics with, uh….everything, and a keen eye on educating the US public on the bizarre religious beliefs of one of their leading candidates, I shall refer to the two Microsoft tablet models as Urim and Thummim, with Urim being the stand-in for the cheaper unit and Thummim taking the starring role as full blown tablet.

That the “cheaper” tablet is doomed to fail couldn’t be more obvious to me if it were written on Golden Tablets and decoded by Joseph Smith himself.  It won’t be long before chants of “The Urim is Vermin” begin to appear.  My guess is that will happen about the time the hapless consumer clicks into the “apps” section of the Microsoft store.  Since Urim doesn’t support full scale Microsoft products, the Urim clients will be tethered to the Microsoft store just like the Apple iPad crowd.  I venture to guess that the Microsoft store will resemble the bread lines in former Soviet Russia as people stand around waiting (hoping, praying) that their favorite app will get ported to Microsoft.  This is the tablet that will really show how much Microsoft was “forced” into producing this on their own when everybody else knew better.  Prediction: DOA

Microsoft’s upscale version$$$ of their newfangled tablet (Thummin) is purported to run full-blown Windows.  See all those extra dollar signs?  Prediction: Narrow adoption by those with very specialized needs, and that is fully dependent on the unit actually performing in a manner consistent with the high expectations Microsoft is prepping everybody for.

Clear winner in all this?  Ipad Mini.


Beck and Social Justice

Social justice is dog whistle code for WELFARE in the wingnutosphere.  You know who they think gets all the welfare?  The Black people.  Wingnutospherians hate Black people.  But what about Mormons?

The Mormons have a VERY recent history of being averse to Black folks. The social structures instituted by the Mormons (and cited in this blog) were set up to serve OTHER Mormons.

The Mormon Church was only recently forced, through the microscope of bad public relations, to soften their stance against Black people.

It was part of their CORE FOUNDING BELIEF that black people were inferior. It is my understanding that the recent movement toward race normalization within their church began somewhere in the 1970’s. Beck would have seen this “black infiltration” first hand, in his youth. It obviously scarred him in ways we are all witnessing today.

There’s no need to imagine how Mormons react when top church authority tries to tamper with original Mormon doctrine. Just look at polygamy as an example. It’s been officially outlawed for something like 100 years. Somehow it’s still prolific (and scandalous) enough to attract prime-time drama treatment.

With that in mind, the ‘social justice’ that Beck is upset about may just be that which is being implemented in his own faith. Like the “fundamentalist” Mormon polygamists of our era, Beck is merely positioning himself as a “fundamentalist” Mormon racist.

FWIW, if he was brought up to believe the Mormon version of religious fairy tales, should we hold him as accountable for his racism as if he had adopted the faith at a later time? I don’t know his bio enough to say, but I’ll speculate his peculiar Mormon upbringing is responsible for his being able to rationalize the Mormon heritage of social justice was never meant to be extended outside the Mormon circle.

Generally speaking, the Mormons have shown themselves to be hideous neighbors. Historically, it’s why they ended up out in the middle of the freakin’ desert to begin with. They got chased out of nearly everywhere (see Mormon Trail) because they were easily identifiable as kooks back ‘in the good old days’.

The details of the time they spent in Missouri is particularly supportive of my position on this.

I’ll admit it was probably easier to sort out the kooks back then. Harder to distinguish nowadays, what with admitted torturers and their extended family being lauded on TV nearly every Sunday morning while the truly God-fearing people are all at church.
In public the Mormons are forced to condemn Beck.  In private, like the Jim Crow, post-civil war KKK leader/town sheriff, he’s their hero.