Richard Dawkins and PZ Myers are engaged in a disagreement about the merits of a complaint made by a female member of the atheist community who attended a skeptics conference and complained about horny guys in a Youtube video she posted after the event. I favor Richard Dawkins take on the situation, though many of PZ’s Army are outraged that Dawkins doesn’t get it,
The best case I can make for Skepchick is a weak one at best. She’s sitting around a bunch of drunk guys at four a.m. in a bar telling them how she hates that guys find her attractive enough to be diverted away from her brilliant mind. Other feminist atheists aren’t burdened with this baggage, and she actually names one in her post-’assault’ video. No explanation is given, so one is left to guess at the difference in attitudes of the males towards the different atheist females. Is it a simple function of youth and beauty? Could it be that Ms. Skepchick is inadvertently spewing great clouds of feminine pheromones that the other female lacks? Is she truly as clear and unambiguous in her engagements with these males as she asserts, or is there a bit of subconscious flirtation involved in a bar location? Does the other female drink her male associates under the table ’til early in the a.m. and then later make videos complaining about their lack of alcoholic flexibility? Curious minds want to know. There’s science at stake here.
PZ is super in his support of these poor helpless girls. He’s also attempted to write “The Geek Atheist Guide to Dating and Relationships for Dummies“. Pretty good effort IMHO, but the official post title invokes a promise of info on how to get the geek girls to have sex (get laid) with you. I don’t know if I’m suppose to laugh at that, or be “Skepchick outraged” that anybody would be rude enough to attempt such futile maneuvers. For the record, suggesting a late night chat over coffee in your hotel room should be crossed off your “ways to woo Skepchick” checklist.
As to the ‘event’ that triggered the skeptic girl to lash out? Pffft. In a perfect world maybe everybody would read PZ (or Miss Manners??) and all courtship rituals would be formally agreed to beforehand, thereby eliminating any chance of awkwardness. Even then, there are going to be social misfits, not to mention genuine misunderstandings of intent in some cases. Is ‘coffee and chat in my room’ a metaphor for “sexytime”, or is it just coffee and a chat in his room?
Note to Skepchick: You’re a highly attractive and intelligent female. You’re in a BAR at four a.m. with a bunch of guys drunk on spirits and inspired by your smile. I’d be worried about the state of humanity if nobody took notice of you. Also, you’re gonna get plenty of “HATE” mail for being an atheist by religious people posing as skeptics. You’ll also get hate mail just because some people have nothing better to do. Not proof of anything except perhaps that the misogynist community is just as good at pharyngulating open public opening forums/polls as PZ often is.
About the social awkwardness. I’m willing to go out on a limb and posit that the geekier and smarter guys you women will come across at these events are much more likely to be socially and sexually immature, if only because they committed so much of their time to the more solitary pursuit of knowledge instead of booty. Think about it. Cut them some slack ferchrissakes.
If you girls truly feel at risk riding elevators, here or abroad, then by all means take appropriate measures to protect yourselves. Go in groups. Ask a guy you don’t think is a goober to walk you to your room. Carry a roll of quarters in one hand and a sharp pencil in the other. Be prepared to gouge and whack if need be. In other words, MAN UP.